As I grew up, relatives would say to me that we were related to this family or that family, but any description of the connections seemed vague. One of those names I heard I was related to was VAN LIERE. I think I even went to school with a Van Liere or two.
After all these years and lots of research, I now understand how I am related to the Van Lieres. They are my grandfather’s cousins!
This is how the connection works:
In My Grandfather’s Story Part II, I described how, when he was a child, his family lived two houses over from Grandpa’s aunt’s house on Burdick Street in Kalamazoo.
His father’s sister, Johanna Geertruida Maria Zuijdweg was born in Goes, Zeeland, the Netherlands on 23 December 1873. On 10 May 1900, she married Marinus van Liere in Goes. Marinus was born in 1875 in Goes. He was the son of Jacob van Liere and Katharina Barbier. When he married Johanna, he was a shoe maker.
They had two boys and then immigrated to the United States in 1904.
They lived in Kalamazoo, Michigan and had another six boys, for a total of eight. Here is a photo of the family with the first three boys, taken in Kalamazoo.
Johanna has not only gained weight with the birth of the 2nd and 3rd children, but she seems to have aged. In a very short period of time she not only had the three boys, but also left her country and started a new life in Kalamazoo.
I believe Marinus may have had a shoe store in Kalamazoo because I found an ad for the store, dated 30 Oct 1917, and it was on Burdick Street. In the 1910 census the Van Lieres lived at 1338 S. Burdick St. The store is 1208 S. Burdick St.
Marinus passed away 22 November 1941 in Kalamazoo, and Johanna died on 14 July 1947 in Kalamazoo.
Here is a photo shared by Jane Van Liere of the eight Van Liere boys, sons of Marinus and Johanna (Zuijdweg) Van Liere. NOTE: THESE ARE THE FIRST COUSINS OF MY GRANDFATHER, ADRIAN ZUIDWEG. Click on the photo so you can see it enlarged!
From left to right they are:
Eugene (the tallest), Luke, Jake, Jim, John, Renny. Jane wasn’t sure about the last two, but if the others are correct perhaps Adrian and then Peter.
This is how we get a lot more Van Lieres in Kalamazoo than Zuidwegs: Johanna took her husband’s name and had eight boys who then kept their last names, whereas Grandpa was an only child of the only surviving Zuijdweg boy (his father Adrian). By the way, we do have another Adrian Zuidweg in the family as my cousin’s son shares Grandpa’s and Great-Grandpa’s name.
So the Van Lieres might be Van Lieres, but they are also Zuidwegs!
Here is the information we have collected so far. There are no doubt large gaps and most likely children missing in this list.
JACOB (Jake), the oldest Van Liere boy, grew up to be a fireman for the City of Kalamazoo. He was born 14 April 1902 in Goes, the Netherlands, and died May 1968 in Kalamazoo, Michigan.
He married Margaret Lucas (1911-1971). Jake and Margaret had a son, Charles Robert (born 28 Jul 1933 in Michigan and died 29 may 1957 in Kalamazoo), and a daughter Jean Kilgore.
I believe this photo was taken of Jacob when the family still lived in Goes.
JOHN, son #2, owned a shoe repair near the family home on Burdick Street, across from the ice cream shop. The shop has been called Mathews, but it could have been Mursch’s ice cream shop. The ice cream was made in the back of the store.
John was born 23 April 1903 in the Netherlands, most likely Goes. He died 7 January 1974 in Kalamazoo, Michigan.
He married Trinet Van Tichelt (born 22 Jan 1906 in the Netherlands and died 28 Mar 1989. John and Trinet had a son, John. He was their only child. John married Jane and they have 7 children and 16 grandchildren.
This is the branch of the family that provided me with the photograph and with information about the boys.
ADRIAN (this name goes back far in the Zuijdweg family), son #3, was a golf instructor. He was born 7 Oct 1905 in Michigan and died 16 Apr 1984 in Brevard, Florida.
He married Vivian or Violet Irene (born 7 Feb 1908 in Michigan and died 21 Apr 2007 in Belmont, Kent, Michigan). Adrian and his wife had a daughter, Betty (born c. 1928 in Michigan).
Here is Adrian’s 8th grade graduation notice in the Kalamazoo Gazette on June 16, 1920.
EUGENE (Curly), son #4, lived in Las Vegas. He was born around 1905 in Kalamazoo and married Lydia B., who was born in1906.
PETER, son #5, owned Van Liere Tile in Milwood. He was born 24 Oct 1907 in Michigan and died in Oct 1965. He married Lorraine. Peter was a member of the Elks. He played a lot of golf.
LUCAS (Luke), son #6, worked for The Upjohn Company. He was born 7 Aug 1909 and died 12 May 2001, both in Kalamazoo. He was married twice, first to Sadie and then Myrteen A. Wolcott.
On 27 August 1922, the Kalamazoo Gazette reported on Luke’s golf game in this article. Start reading about half way down on the left column.
JAMES (Jim), son #7, worked for The Upjohn Company in Arizona. He was born in 1913 in Michigan.
MARINUS (Renny), son #8, worked for The Upjohn Company. he was born in 1915 in Michigan. He married Dorothy.
In looking for articles on the Van Lieres in the local newspaper, I happened upon two other Van Lieres at the turn of the century. One was Peter Van Liere, who was somewhat regularly in the newspaper. I did not find a connection with our Van Lieres, although a familial connection is still possible.
The other was a Cornelius Van Liere, who died in 1902. The Probate Order (5 June 1902), as well as related information, is in the newspaper. What is worth noting is that Marinus Van Liere is mentioned in the Probate Order. This is two years before Marinus and Johanna immigrated to the U.S. Was Cornelius an uncle of Marinus? There’s always another mystery . . . .
John developed treasure island on eagle lake where your parents live
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I think Mom or Dad said something about that. I’ll have to get more info!
All interesting. It’s hard to believe that there are only perhaps 4 years between the first and second photos. Could the three children in the second photo be three of their younger boys or three grandchildren? The previously slender young husband looks jowly and the wife looks haggard.
Reading this makes me think that researching maternal lines (mom’s mom’s mom’s mom, etc.) must be difficult as the last names keep changing.
I really don’t think they would have paid for a professional pic and only put younger children in when the boys were all so close in age–just about every year a new baby. Johanna was so pretty in that pic. It kind of breaks for my heart for her, seeing what she went through while she was still so young. But she ended up with a lot of healthy children, so all’s well.
SOOOO difficult to research maternal lines.
I always enjoy pictures that show the same people at two different points in time. It’s interesting how much you can learn from just a few photos.
Good point. It is really telling to see these two photos near each other and compare.
I’ve often found that “family legends” are, very often, actually true – though separating the myth nfrom reality can sometimes be misleading. Congratulations on this discovery!
Dawsr, it can be so hard separating them out! The stuff I thought was true is turning out not to be and the stuff I thought was suspect is true!
Wonderful documentation of your family. I am sure that the Kalamazoo Historical Society would be interested in your genealogy project as well.
Mrs. P, thank you so much for your compliment! I just tried to find out if there is such an organization, and I couldn’t find that exactly but it looks like there is a Kalamazoo Valley Genealogical Society. I wonder if they would be interested. There is an archives at the university in Kalamazoo, and I’ve written to the director. There needs to be some central website with blogs ike this one attached to it, right?
It depends on the historical society. Some have websites and others don’t. It is certainly something that you could check out.
I’ll keep checking it out. Thanks, Mrs. P!
Johanna was a very attractive woman in the first photo. I agree with you that the birth of more children and the immigration to America aged her somewhat. But what courage and strength that took for her and her husband to make that decision.
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Great research… Phew, all those boys and a handsome looking lot of fellows to carry on the family name. No wonder there were so many Van Lieres in Kalamazoo, eh? 😉
Catherine, I know, they are so handsome! Yes, so many Van Liere boys!!
I’m a Van Liere and my grandfather is mentioned in your research. So interesting, thank you!
How exciting that you found this post! I just sent you an email. . .
Nice to discover your Van Liere page! My name is Jaap van Liere, I live in the Netherlands, born in Vlissingen, Zeeland. I’m collecting all about “van Liere”(genealogy).I do have a little more information about the children off, you have also information I didn’t have. I do have all the names of the fathers of Marinus (mannie) van Liere till 1610. Are you interested? Do you know if there is a Van Liere who will be interested and on the other hand can give me more information about the last generations of van Liere in Kalamazoo?
Thanks in advance!
kind regards
Jaap van Liere
(sorry, my english is schoolbased 50 y ago)
Hi Jaap, so nice to meet you! I actually have been in contact with a current Van Liere in Michigan, and I think she would be very interested. Please write to me at luannecastle@gmail.com.
I married into the family by way of Betty Van Liere’s daughter. Betty was Adrain Van Liere’s daughter born in Benton Harbor. I’m happy to have found this blog and my wife is thrilled with the info and pictures.